{"id":311,"date":"2006-07-04T19:01:00","date_gmt":"2006-07-04T19:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zerowait.com\/?p=311"},"modified":"2006-07-04T19:01:00","modified_gmt":"2006-07-04T19:01:00","slug":"311","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zerowait.com\/index.php\/2006\/07\/04\/311\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">NetApp Storevault <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Lately it seems like everyone wants my comments on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.storevault.com\/\">Storevault by NetApp.<\/a> All I know about the product is what I have read in articles on the Internet and heard from other folks. About a month ago we received a mailing to become a reseller of Storevault, but we did not respond to the mailing. I have read <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.netapp.com\/dave\/TechTalk\/?permalink=StoreVault-Storage-for-Small-Businesses.html\">Dave Hitz&#8217; blog on the product <\/a>&#8211; but I don&#8217;t really understand the product placement at all.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Doing the math:<\/span><br \/>It seems like an expensive unit to me for what it delivers. 1TB Raw from (4) 250GB drives for $5000.00 seem a bit high. If it is using RAID DP than two disks of the four are needed for parity and with one disk as a spare, it does not seem to leave much room for data. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">I have no idea what the yearly software license and support costs will be.<\/span> I have heard that the product is going to be completely supported out of India, but I have no confirmation of this. The last article I read about the product seems to confirm the 1 TB Raw unit price, but does not provide a cost for 1TB usable.<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thechannelinsider.com\/article\/NetApp+Solidifies+SMB+Presence+with+StoreVault+S500\/181870_1.aspx\"><br \/><span class=\"body\">StoreVault S500 starts at about $5,000 for the base model with 1TB, consisting of four 250GB drives. It is available immediately through NetApp&#8217;s resellers.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">The math  as it works out from the articles &#038; blogs I have read.<\/span>  (See <a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/www.drunkendata.com\/?p=460\">Toigo here<\/a> , <a href=\"http:\/\/www.drunkendata.com\/?p=388#comment-2567\">Hitz here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.drunkendata.com\/?p=388#comment-2590\">Strange here)<\/a><br \/>Step 1) 4 disks of 250 GB = 1TB raw.<br \/>Step 2) Rightsizing of disks typically works out to about 10%, so the Net Disk Space available after rightsizing is 900GB available.<br \/>Step 3) RAID DP requires two disks for Parity  900GB &#8211; 2*(225GB) = 450GB available.<br \/>Step 4) NetApp suggests that users keep a spare disk  450GB &#8211; 225GB =225GB available.<br \/>Step 5) Typically NetApp says to keep a 20% Snap reserve for snapshots. 225GB *.8 = 180GB available.<br \/>Step 6) File system overhead &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how big the Ontap Lite OS is, but let&#8217;s assume it takes 5GB    180GB &#8211; 5GB=<span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">175 GB available<\/p>\n<p>$5000.00 for somewhere between 175GB usable and 225GB  usable out of 1TB raw does not seem like a very good deal to me. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdw.com\/shop\/products\/default.aspx?EDC=717120\">At CDW a 1.6 TB Snap Server  costs $4859.99<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/span>I don&#8217;t know what the street price will be for the unit with 1 or 2 TB of usable data and three year software and hardware support. If the unit can provide 3TB of usable storage for under $10,000.00 it might be be a viable product.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the resellers with feet on the street I speak to need a minimum of 25% margin before they can make any money on a product. It costs a lot of money to keep a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bls.gov\/oco\/ocos119.htm\">salesman<\/a> on the street and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bls.gov\/oco\/ocos123.htm\">Sales Engineer on staff<\/a>. Will resellers be able to sell enough of these units at the $5000.00 &#8211; $10,000.00 price point to cover their costs of sales?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps a company like<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdw.com\/shop\/products\/default.aspx?EDC=935346\"> CDW<\/a> can make a go out of the product. But when it costs about $140,000 in salary alone for a reseller company to keep a sales team on the street, it might be awfully difficult to make the team concentrate on an unproven product. If the average street price is $10,000.00 and the sales team can sell 2 units a week , they may be able to sell a $1,000,000 a year. Will there be profit left after the costs of sales and taxes to provide a profit for the owner? It is awfully expensive to do missionary sales work on a new product, it will be interesting to see what happens. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tmcnet.com\/usubmit\/2006\/07\/05\/1704593.htm\">See TMC  here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Please email me if you think I have made a mistake in my math. Bringing the benefits of Ontap to small business would be a great thing to do. I hope NetApp succeeds in its efforts, but there is enormous competition in the small business sector.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">Happy<\/span> Fourth of <span style=\"color: rgb(102, 51, 255);\">July!<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img width='1' height='1' src='https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/11084229-115195517242533810?l=zerowait.blogspot.com' alt='' \/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NetApp Storevault Lately it seems like everyone wants my comments on Storevault by NetApp. All I know about the product is what I have read in articles on the Internet and heard from other folks. 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